Posted by: Jane | November 22, 2010

An argument for antipsychiatry

When I first started posting on this blog back in 2007 or whenever it was, in my first post I tried to distance myself from antipsychiatry. And for good reason. These days ‘antipsychiatry’ has become an epithet, an insult, an accusation hurled at someone to label them a fringe member, a nut job, a psychiatric ‘denier’. Often said in the same sentence with another increasingly common insult: “Scientologist!” to be used whenever someone in the promeds, biologic psychiatry camp wants to write off someone with dissenting opinions and conflicting experiences to their own.

‘Anti’ is a powerful word. When I think of the word ‘anti’ I sometimes think of antimatter. Most of us probably learned in school that matter and antimatter can not coexist in the same place without a disastrous reaction. The older I get the more I try to sound moderate and more inclusive as opposed to strident and exclusive which was a hallmark of my earliest writing. And to be ‘anti’ is to not be balanced, moderate or in the middle, but to be unipolar and firmly on one end of a spectrum regardless of what it may be.

I consider the question of my psychiatry views to be political because it is ultimately about self-care and self-determination which involves our rights as civilized human beings. I have often been accused of being antipsychiatry or having antipsychiatry views and had complete strangers assert to me that I ‘must be’ antipsychiatry because I don’t say warm glowing things about psych meds.

I’ve always felt that calling myself ‘antipsychiatry’ would lead to an interesting conundrum if psychiatry ever underwent significant reform. Mainly, when I think of psychiatry I think of their primary offering, their mainstay treatment. Which as most of us probably know, is a plethora of psychotropic drugs made by Big Pharma. And I do not conceal my dislike and to a certain extent outrage, at how toxic these drugs are and the great lies that are spun about them in order to get them into your body so you can get your brain hooked on them for life.

But what if, let’s say, psychiatry started recommending a new class of drug which simply took away your problems without leaving you damaged? Could a drug that does not damage your brain, glands, sex drive and CNS and that also fixes your mental issues be worth fighting against? It’s worth thinking about because should that day ever come, I would think that I would be hard pressed to defend being antipsychiatry at that point. But psychiatry is not just about handing out drugs. It would be much simpler if it was. While I was visiting some pages on my friend Marian’s blog, I found something very much worth considering. Marian writes:

As for the concept of “anti-psychiatry”, I can’t and won’t distance myself completely from this, unfortunately, rather controversial term. Psychiatry in practise is five things: drugs, electroshock, restraints/seclusion, lobotomy, and, in context with each and every one of these, coercion. I regard all five of them as violations against human rights, that need to be abolished.

Drugs, electroshock, restraints, seclusion and lobotomy.

In my hypothetical future where Big Pharma finally makes medicine instead of sickness in a pill form, it would be difficult to stay ‘anti’ psych meds for very long. But what about the other four traits?

Electroshock is basically a cattleprod placed alongside your cranium which surges electricity across your delicate brain cells super-heating and boiling some of them, breaking the blood-brain barrier, inducing seizures and memory loss. It’s medical brain damage via a crap shoot. To call it barbaric insults some of the more complex operations that primitive peoples did—like trepanning.

Restraints. There is all kinds of restraints. The most common type you probably hear about is the ubiquitous four-point restraints. They still have and use straitjackets although they work a little different, appear to be more ‘stylish’ and are now called safety shirts or safety smocks. There are manual restraints were people just hold you down physically and then there is another kind of restraint that is kind of like being put in a coffin with only your head sticking out—called a safety blanket. I was put in one of those for awhile and I talk about that harrowing experience in my book.

Seclusion. Been there too. Sucks when you have no window to look out of and nothing to read. Makes you go deeper into your own mind to find stimulation. Can really affect people in weird ways. Didn’t bother me as much as it might others because I am overstimulated easily and I liked being left alone. Still, some people panic when they are alone and can’t interact with others and find seclusion to be torturous. And I don’t care if you do like being in solitude a lot, being alone in a cell when you don’t want to be or were not planning on it sucks big time.

Lobotomy. Lobotomies actually do still happen. Mass General reportedly did seventeen lobotomies in 2001 and it was reported that over a hundred were performed through Europe the same year. Instead of stabbing your brain with an icepick like they used to, now they paint little lesions across your lobes with what amounts to a tiny soldering iron. It’s like art. Burn-scarring the mental illness out of people by hurting their brain.

Can I be pro-electroshock? No.

Can I be pro-restraints? No.

Can I be pro-seclusion? No.

Can I be pro-lobotomy? No.

So you see, even if I did become pro-meds someday, I know that as long as psychiatry continues to resort to medical harm and spiritual oppression as a form of treatment, I can not be for or ‘pro’ psychiatry. Not ever. Not so long as those five aspects continue to remain the primary tools of psychiatry.

Is there room for a middle ground? What of us that don’t want to be ‘anti’ psychiatry, nor ‘pro’ psychiatry. Can we be in the center of the mental health treatment seesaw? I am having trouble seeing how we can realistically pull that off. Maybe someone more finely tuned to political correctness or political sensitivity can explain to me a moderate, in-between, optimal middle-ground between two polar opposites, (anti vs pro) position.

For now, let’s explore this hypothetical middle-ground on our own. How would it work? Well let’s see:

“I’m okay with lobotomies for about half the people they are recommended to.” No, I can’t agree with that.

“I think restraints, forced electroshock and being drugged to a stupor is okay for some people, some of the time.” No, that’s not going to work either.

If there is a middle path between being pro and anti psychiatry, I am having trouble seeing it here. Is this truly one of those situations where you are either with us or against us? It almost seems so. How can you be for inhumane and dehumanizing treatment, sometimes, or for when circumstance supposedly warrant, and also respect a person/patient’s right to self-determination, their right of informed consent and right to refuse? Their right to be not have medical (and psychological) damage forced upon them?

As for myself, although I too wish for the complete abolition of these practices I just can’t see calling myself ‘antipsychiatry’. It’s a label with radical connotations to it. I don’t really gain anything by doing so. I truly wish I could come up with a better defense than: I just don’t want the impression that is given to some people when you declare yourself to be antipsychiatry. I don’t want the baggage and the extremism that comes with the label. What I don’t want is an easy excuse for my detractors and those who disagree with me to grab and use in order to belittle, insult or marginalize me, by slinging this one word as both an accusation and as a reason to not listen to what I have to say.

Advertisement

Responses

  1. We can not always “be nice/nescius=ignorant” in a violent driven system.The “middle class” tends to stick to an “lick upwards, kick down and look away!”neurotic pattern, she considers as “normal”, when it is clearly dehumanising privilege “safety” driven.
    I understand the wish for a bit of calmness in the trouble, but to preserve the specie we have to take a stand against the abuse of natural human needs…like mutual care, for the profit of evident “untreated”sociopaths demanding the subordination of each life aspect.
    The human mind has to be actively defended as much as the rest of the fauna&flora disappearing drastically. I remember reading a definition of “passive aggressive” defining it as some jealousy against more wealthy and more successful,… in that moment I knew that political psychiatry is not only a matter of historical gulags.

  2. re seventeen lobotomies

    I can understand this. If a person can not function, and this operation stops their neurosis, then it might be a success.
    The learned feeling-thought-behaviour brain cells cut or burnt out during lobotomy did not happen in one day but from years of mistakes of psychiatry beforehand.
    The same when E.C.T. is introduced as an option after years of bullsh*t chemicals fixing the “brain chemical imbalance” lie of psychiatry.
    But the patient might have a better life, so I can`t say lobotomy is 100% wrong in all “patient” cases.

  3. Antiphonsgarden: I agree the human mind needs to be defended. It’s hard to strike a balance in such a polarizing issue.

    MarkPS2: there is some part of me that thinks: there has been a serious failure somewhere along the line if we are resorting to destroying a person’s brain. Even if just a tiny part of it. It speaks to me and says how little we even know how a person’s life can bring them to a point of such nonfunctionality that this is even on the table for consideration. If you do get a ‘success’ you are doing an end-run. It’s almost a cheat. Okay, you hurt the person’s mentation organ and certain cognitions cease… that doesn’t teach anyone involved what the problem is.

    Think about the story of Phineas Gage. He took trauma to the frontal lobe and he became a different person. His spirit did not overwrite the brain damage with a backup copy of the ‘real Gage’. The real Gage was the moment to moment Gage that was a product of the unique configuration of his brain through his cumulative life experiences. Change the brain and yes you can change behavior but at what cost?

    Hemingway said ECT destroyed the best parts of him. ECT does not discriminate mentally ill brain cells from healthy brain cells. It shocks them all. I just can’t agree that changing a person’s personality permanently through organic brain damage is a good thing. We don’t know enough about the brain and its relationship to personality to be carving parts away or disrupting them with electricity. By the time we do, hopefully we will realize what a crime it is to carve or burn someone’s greymatter to get a change in their thoughts or behavior.

    Thank you both for visiting.

    • “there has been a serious failure somewhere along the line if we are resorting to destroying a person’s brain.”

      I agree 100% with this. Psychiatry F-ed up beforehand and escapes any responsibility.
      But there is a emergency psychiatrist blog where he/she writes of getting patients in the ER/ED literally tearing their skin off, or compelled to eat feces or rub feces on themself.
      Something has to be done to help those people at that moment in time. No?

      ECT is a crime, it is murder and should be illegal.

      • Mark, of course something has to be done. No one says different (I hope). But there are lots of things that can be done other than destroying the person’s brain with drugs or ect. First and foremost: meet the person where s/he is. Instead of a) pretending that they’re out of reach at the place they’re at, just because you yourself are terrified of going there, and then b) forcing them to meet you where you are at.

        If One Is Truly to Succeed in Leading a Person to a Specific Place, One Must First and Foremost Take Care to Find Him Where He is and Begin There.

        This is the secret in the entire art of helping.
         
        Anyone who cannot do this is himself under a delusion if he thinks he is able to help someone else. In order truly to help someone else, I must understand more than he–but certainly first and foremost understand what he understands.

        If I do not do that, then my greater understanding does not help him at all.

        If I nevertheless want to assert my greater understanding, then it is because I am vain or proud, then basically instead of benefiting him I really want to be admired by him.

        But all true helping begins with a humbling.

        The helper must first humble himself under the person he wants to help and thereby understand that to help is not to dominate but to serve, that to help is a not to be the most dominating but the most patient, that to help is a willingness for the time being to put up with being in the wrong and not understanding what the other understands. -Soeren Kierkegaard

  4. Hi Jane,
    I enjoy your writing and think you are a very intelligent lady who has been through quite a lot. I admire your enterprising spirit and how you have resolved such terrible illnesses by self discovery and intuitive use of the scientific method. I relate to you in my own personal life as I have had problems physical mental and emotional which I have resolved on my own, learning truths that the mainstream ignores, denies, for profit and power.

    Even this post I admire how reasoned you are while describing why you cannot be propsychiatry.

    However, I would argue that evidence for psychiatry are the individual cases where psychiatric treatment is very helpful. I have a uncle who had a psychotic depressive breakdown. He remained extremely paranoid and delusional for weeks, and the only thing that could get through to him was electroshock. After a few treatments, the psychosis broke and he regained functioning. He is not the man he was before his breakdown (and he probably never will be again, something happened to his mind) but psychiatric care did seem to bring him back to a semi-stable functional place. He is very happy to have had the ECT and he is grateful for his medication.

    I have a sister who has been diagnosed with bipolar, although it is debatable but either way she has some kind of psych problem. She takes a moderate low dose of lithium. My sister is grateful for her lithium as she says it helps with her moods, she thinks more clearly, sleeps better, and the dose is so low that she has no side effects. The family can see her behavior is less erratic. There is far less inappropriate aggressive behavior, her thinking is more clear and rational and less impulsive, her sleep is more normal and regular. My sister says the lithium helps prevent her from her depressions too.
    I think the problem with lithium therapy for most patients is that psychiatrists are lazy and stupid and put their patients on 1200mg off the bad without following blood levels… also many psychiatrists aim for the high blood level (rather than the lower end, which is ALSO EFFECTIVE by research proof and far less likely to lead to complications). Really the only time aggressive high blood level lithium therapy is indicated is when the patient has a major proclivity for serious mania (as evidence suggests the higher levels of lithium are better as an antimanic, but even the moderate levels are effective too). Considering the devastating consequences of high lithium therapy, it really isn’t justified to keep so many people on such high doses of the stuff. My sister takes a moderate dose and she does very well no side effects at all, just noted some improvement in her problems.
    It doesn’t fix everything but it certainly seems to help, and I would be worried if she stopped taking it.

    There are many individual cases where some sort of psychiatric treatment has been received positively by the patient and the family.

    I am not one of those people and the handful of times I sought treatment, it was either some crazy ridiculous doctor, and impaired functioning further. I have made much better progress with my mood problems by researching and observing myself and learning what helps me. I’ve been given some crazy diagnoses too like schizoaffective when I am clearly not psychotic and very functional. I’ve also been given crazy diagnosis in the other way, where the doctor dismissed biologically real mood disorder (which I clearly do have, and I am not a depressive anxious ruminating person by personality, when my mood is normal I am totally not depressed at all and a very capable emotionally balanced sort of person). I am thankful I have never taken an SSRI, as I hear those can permanently hook your brain.

    I think it is true that psychiatry disables more than it enables. Most people who are professional psych patients can’t work, and are encouraged not to work. They are put on benzodiazepine medication for ordinary emotions and poor coping skills, when it is obvious to anyone with even rudimentary medical education that benzodiazepines are disabling medications which wipe your memory, wipe your motivation, and prevent you from being a functional person at all if you take them in any quantity on a regular basis. It’s one thing to take a strong neuroleptic if you are in a crisis state or on the way to one (i.e. severe florid psychosis or severe mania)… it is another thing to be given out tranquilizers because your coping skills are utter shit and you are in a tizzy and a panic for psychological reasons. How can you hold a job and be a functional productive person when you can’t even remember anything as a result of benzo sedation or being seroquelled?

    But again this is a case by case basis… some docs are like NO BENZOS DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEMS but others are like here’s your abiliquel and some xanax, you are very very sick and can’t be expected to do anything…pay me now.

    Yea.

    Anyway, TLDR I know.

    Basically my point is this… there are individual cases where a patient is grateful for psychiatric services and they are living better because of it. This alone is reason enough not to be antipsychiatry.

    • Itsthewoo:

      First, let me say that I read your post (all of it) a couple times and you came across very open and honest.

      Re: your uncle. Very sobering story about your uncle. I will readily admit that a part of my stomach flip flopped when I read “He is very happy to have had the ECT and he is grateful for his medication,” because it so antithetical to my own experience. On the one hand I am glad that he’s better. On the other hand, there remain so many questions.

      Depressive psychosis does not manifest in a vacuum. How much and what kind of stress was this guy under and for how long? To get to paranoid and delusional your mind-brain has to have gone off-balance in some way. Who will ever know what was the true cause of his breakdown? There is mystery there and a lost chance at further understanding the nature of the makeup of the mind itself in that wonderful perspective we call subjective reality.

      Re: your sister. Naturally, I am glad she is functioning better. But I can’t help but think to myself, now here is an opportunity to study the subjective mind. All mood related stuff comes from a neuron-rich area of your brain barely a few inches inside from your forehead. The prefrontal lobe does not extend past your ears. It’s just this relatively small area of electrical firing. You think thoughts in your frontal lobe, they get processed in the prefrontal area, then any command level signals are sent to other brain structures. I can’t be totally precise because I am not an expert but we are talking about a location inside the cranium that is about an inch by an inch by an inch in size, center and slight off center to the right.

      This is the area that lights up when people get emotional from the thoughts they are thinking. What does lithium or any psych med do to rebalance firing deficits in the prefrontal lobe? Nothing whatsoever. You have got this problem with the ordering of your brain and thoughts but the chemical called lithium is busy making your blood toxic, tweaking your thyroid, hammering away at your bladder and kidneys—all for what? Mental illness isn’t in the kidney. Why harm the kidneys just to attack the brain?

      Lithium is like a bomb. It is not precise or targeted or targetable. There is collateral damage from taking it that adds up over time. Learning to live with lithium is like learning to live with being intoxicated to a greater or lesser degree, forever. How do you ever find your real self under all that chemical distortion? Especially once the years start ticking by and you don’t even have a baseline of the real you any more and all you come to know is the lithium-you? Have you ever listened to Joanna Moncrieff talk about the science of lithium and how in the old days the psychiatrists straight-up called the patients affect changes the result of lithium poisoning?

      At any rate, I am glad you felt like you talk about the current situation in your life. I wish I had all the answers but I don’t. The sensitive and pc-minded thing to say is: Well I am glad your family is better. But in my heart I think the implications of ‘better’ are very troubling.

  5. Seeing “mental issues” separated from society…THAT is the real divisive madness.
    Arno Gruen has written about it!
    Considered the fact that the scapegoat is mostly the strongest in a system, “treating” the one who at least in metaphors describes that something goes wrong”, during the usual mainstream neurotic “functions” as if nothing happen till I don’t find it difficult to take a stand for another form of caring attention, who would not be based on the increasing of the profits of the pharma industry or the systemic careerism. The care sector is a booming industry, the more, the better. Not to mention all those “coach to happiness&success” air in bag business.I don’t find it innocent at all that in a deregulated market, the “genetic” research is far more supported than, let say psycho-social or environment interactive researches, they simply don’t provide the same plus value optimisation, they might even demand a change of society. Medication does not “cure” it simply flattens the mind. Real therapy is something else!. But considering that mood flatteners are so “usual” and almost everybody is on medication to “handle life”, who might noticed how the brainwashing impact us all.

    • the genetics of mood disorders is one of the biggest con jobs being put on the consuming public right now. I keep saying it: the latest from the labs of people who are in the business of doing PET and MRI scans indicate deficits in the prefrontal lobe. Which gets its signals from the frontal lobe.

      Every year or so another random gene is found that could be, might be, maybe, perhaps, possibly have something to do with a mood disorder but only more research will tell. It’s been like that for at least a decade now.

      A mood disorder is not in your genes. There are no genes for it. You get a mood disorder from what is going on in your frontal lobe. Your thoughts, your reality, the way you handle stress and interpret the world around you, that is what leads to a mental disorder. The attempt here is to find some genes to ‘blame’ for bipolar.My prediction is: that will never happen. The place to look at for a mental illness is in the brain.

  6. If anything makes me angry (or makes me laugh — it depends) it’s the critics’ inevitable politically correct “I know that many people feel helped by psychiatry, but…” intro to whatever their criticism. We might as well say “I really feel guilty about being such a selfish a..hole, unable to feel the gratitude I know I owe psychiatry!”

    Indeed, many people feel helped by psychiatry. But why? Because psychiatry saved their life? Because they wouldn’t be able to function, because they would suffer so much more without psychiatric “treatment”?

    Robert Whitaker, he neither, can’t do without political correctness in Anatomy of an Epidemic. But then he asks the crucial question: What would have happened, if the people he’d interviewed, and who’d, gratefully, accepted psychiatry’s “help”, hadn’t received it? Basically, nobody can tell what would have happened if, simply because if didn’t happen. So, the individual in question might be homeless, with about zero quality of life, or even dead, or they might as well be very much alive and thriving, with a quality of life someone on “meds”, and on SSI/SSDI, only can dream of. Nobody can say, people “are living better because of [psychiatric services]“, when these people haven’t lived without the psychiatric services. — And the “oh, but s/he tried, and it didn’t work out” won’t hold either. Sometimes people go through hell for decades, just to, one fine day, gain the insight that turns their life around.

    “itsthewooo” writes “…the only thing that could get through to him was electroshock”. What else was tried? Was really everything imaginable tried? The Danish Patients’ Complaint Board usually dismisses complaints about involuntary ect. Danish law says, involuntary ect may only be given after “less invasive treatments” have failed. The Board’s decision to dismiss a complaint is, also usually, explained: Risperdal, Seroquel, Haldol,… (insert the psych drug of your choice) were tried without the patient showing sufficient/any improvement. Ah, so, according to these “experts”, that is to say that the only other imaginable means to help someone in a crisis apart from frying their brains with electricity, are to fry them with chemicals. I’d say, these people suffer from a profound lack of imagination.

    “itsthewooo” also writes “…I am clearly not psychotic…”. What does “psychotic” mean? Psychiatry’s fundamental definition: being out of touch with reality. With reality meaning consensus reality. Anyone around here who’s always, without exception, completely in touch with consensus reality??? If so, the person in question can’t be a human being. (Jane, this is really exciting, God seems to read your blog, and comment!) Or, to paraphrase Ron Coleman, anyone around here who has not at some point in their life heard, seen, smelled, sensed something others didn’t? No? Congrats, and welcome in the club of voice hearers (= human beings)! So, the razor sharp distinction between “psychotic”, between a crisis, on the one hand, and not “psychotic”, and just a little out of it for psychological reasons (as if crisis didn’t have psychological reasons… ), is a delusion. It’s a nice one, comforting, “us and them”, keeps you seemingly safe: “it can’t happen to me, because I’m not one of them“, if they are seen as a little (biologically?) different from us human beings. But it’s still a delusion. They happen to be human beings just like you and me. “If you have a mind you can lose it.” -Edvard Podvoll.

    Being grateful for mistreatment, for being harmed, tortured, abused, is a well-known coping stategy in people who’ve never been given the opportunity to be anything else but the victim. Psychiatry feeds into this coping strategy: “you’re the victim of a brain disease, and therefor we need to harm, torture and abuse (= victimize) you a little more, confirming your victim identity, so you won’t have to ask yourself, who or what you really are.” It’s terrifying not to know who or what you really are. So, people are grateful, if someone else answers the question for them, and defines them. And if they’re not grateful, well, torture them a little more, and when the pain becomes unbearable, and they can’t see any way out, they’ll change their mind: “yes, you’re right, I’m sick (= wrong, the victim is always wrong), I needed to be treated (= deserved to be tortured, punished), you saved my life, thank you!!!” Stockholm syndrome.

    “Case by case”… — interestingly, whenever the “meds”, or the ect, were a godsend, and the gratitude towards psychiatry knows no boundaries, we’re talking cases. Whenever there’s any critique towards psychiatry involved, we’re suddenly talking anecdotes. Just a general observation.

    Bottom line: personally, I don’t care about political correctness. Both ect and psych drugs, just like lobotomy, are scientifically proven to cause changes in the brain/brain damage. Changes in the brain/brain damage that also impair the individual’s ability to assess their own situation. What I care about is what people say before they are subjected to these consciousness reducing, cognition impairing “treatments”.

    And, of course family feels helped by psychiatry: “You were abused, mistreated, neglected??? Your family says no, you weren’t. So, look how delusional you are!” Blame the victim…

    • Marianbg wrote: “Psychiatry’s fundamental definition: being out of touch with reality. With reality meaning consensus reality. Anyone around here who’s always, without exception, completely in touch with consensus reality??? If so, the person in question can’t be a human being”

      I tend to agree with this and the Ron Coleman bit. How many non schizophrenic, non bipolar manic people have ever thought they heard someone call their name or had a song stuck in their head playing over and over? It’s probably not at all uncommon. Hearing voices or inner sounds that seem like they may be originating from elsewhere, it’s the human condition that comes with having a complex brain. The software and drivers in your brain that help keep your mental operating system going can generate errors and get corrupted for awhile.

      The important thing to understand is that everyone’s mind-brain has the potential to fall out of consensus reality, if even for a short awhile. And just because someone has a break from reality does not mean they have a genetic chemical imbalance that requires life-long dependency on brain shrinking bug-killers.

      • Jane: “…everyone’s mind-brain has the potential to fall out of consensus reality, if even for a short while.”

        I recently went to hear, among others, a shrink give a talk about “psychosis” (wrote a bit about it on Facebook). What struck me most was how really weird, unnatural, and not least terrifying you can make about any natural human reaction sound, if you remove the historical context that created it, and in addition replace every day language with (pseudo-)medical terminology.

        Take the term “catatonia” for instance. Sounds really strange and dangerous, doesn’t it? And it becomes even more strange and dangerous, uncanny actually, when you look at how the “symptoms” are described by psychiatry. “Catalepsy”, “stupor”, “mutism”, etc. “Catatonic patients” can also experience extremely vivid “hallucinations”, both auditory and visual ones. Yikes! These people’s mind/brain must be really sick!

        Now, watch a rabbit catching eye of a predator. To freeze, to become immobile (and mute) is a natural response to perceiving danger ahead. So it is to start running about, seemingly aimless (“agitation”, “catatonic excitement”), but in fact with the aim to confuse the predator/threat, and to find a way out of a life threatening situation/position. And human beings also become “paralyzed with fear”, just as we may start pacing restless about, while we try to solve a difficult problem. It’s the intensity of the reaction that makes the difference, not the very nature of it. And if you investigate the historical context, you’ll find that the intensity of the reaction that gets labelled “catatonia” by no means is exaggerated, out of proportion, compared to the intensity of the perceived threat it is a response to. The software works as it is supposed to. Nothing wrong with it. But to be able to see this, you need the historical context. That’s why psychiatry doesn’t ask about it. Know it, and you can no longer pathologize the reaction.

        The auditory-visual “hallucinations” I’ve experienced myself. They are, so to speak, more real than any real-life experience. About as intense as the kind of dreams you need a few moments after you woke up from them to realize that they were just a dream. Some people say “psychosis” is dreaming while you’re awake. And yes, that’s what I’d say it, also, is. Again here, the difference lies in the intensity. Most people’s mind deals with life through dreaming during their sleep. But when life becomes intense enough, you may have to dream while awake, too. Every human being dreams. Every human being is out of touch with consensus reality, and very much in touch with his/her individual reality several times each night, during his/her sleep. It has to be, or the person goes mad = starts to dream while awake. our mind/brain knows what’s good for us. There’s a (natural) purpose for “psychosis”. It’s not a dysfunction, an illness.

      • Our problem as human beings, compared to animals, is that our mind has the ability to suppress, or even deny intense, traumatic life experiences. The mind of an animal doesn’t have this ability, so animals deal with life here and now. They face and deal with any dangerous situation in the moment. When the danger is over, they shake the tension off, and walk away. When we human beings suppress or deny trauma, we store the tension in our bodies and minds. The storage capacity of our bodies and minds isn’t unlimited. At some point there’s an overload, and what you get is crisis, “psychosis” (or other).

      • Marianbg “…animals deal with life here and now.”
        Animals don`t feel the need to wear clothing-nude-naked, and can not perceive the value in paper(money), or metal (coins).
        Paper or metal money is a trick only humans can believe in and agree to follow.
        Animals only care if I/you human are kind or cruel.
        Missing fur like most animals have, we should be pretty ugly to a dog or cat.

  7. I’m against psychiatry by force. Period.
    If someone wants to undergo “treatment,” fine. As long as there is informed consent (there rarely is informed consent)…

    Psychiatry by force needs to stop.

    No more drugs by force.
    No more ECT by force.
    No more seclusion/restraint by force.
    No more lobotomy by force.

    If someone is supposedly a danger to self or others… prove it! In a court of law, with legal counsel for the one being accused, and the right to question the accusers…. See (6th) and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

    If psychiatry actually saved lives, we would see it in the numbers…. One out of ten adults on SSRI’s – no dent in the suicide rate…. Higher amts of people diagnosed with “bipolar” and “treated”… overall functioning for these folks is not better, it’s worse…

    There is no science behind psychiatry… There is also no math to show that it has made the world a better place, or helped alleviate long-term suffering… In fact, the opposite has taken place….

    I don’t consider myself “anti-psychiatry”… I consider myself “pro-freedom.”
    Psychiatry by force cannot exist in a free society….
    Rather than lose freedom, I say it’s time to lose coercive psychiatry….
    Call me crazy… been called worse.

    Duane Sherry, M.S.
    discoverandrecover.wordpress.com

    • I agree with everything you said Duane. I definitely consider myself pro-informed consent. Good to see you in this neck of the blog woods, it’s been awhile.Thanks for stopping by.

    • How informed it really is, though? Having a degree in social studies, I really believe that everybody has their own cognitive limitations and that seeing the situation in unbiased way is impossible. And that goes for people who aren’t in a bad place.

      many of the advice to mentally ill people goes with the “trust your doctor” line. They are professional after all (as if we never had a professional mess up our computer, plumbing, car, hair…). That takes away person’s free will. Any contradicting evidence to what they have been told by their doctor will be discounted almost automatically.

      Bipolar is catch 22 diagnosis. If you feel you don’t need medical treatment it cannot be you are coping well and feeling better; no, it’s “lack of insight”. Lack of insight is everything that is not agreeing with your treatment team.

      I will take psychiatry seriously in the moment when it stops pretending to be a hard science.

      • Right on VenusHalley.

  8. Markps 2…if your human needs gets neglected long enough, wonders what kind of “weird self destructive behaviour” you might show. Still for lobotomy?
    Some “wild” languages needs heart+mind full translations, not scalpels telling “the right” grammar. Not to mention the post modern version of pretend “soft” electroshocks or “for their best” identity destructive pills. How to fool an audience.
    But hey, some consider long lasting war zone as something good for economy stabilising workplaces for the own country.

    I remember a therapist who was sitting during days and days near a catatonic person till her/his first word…he had this ability…but does our system have it? Fast a tablet anybody?

    Marianb. beware of over idealising the process. A “good” therapist, HAS TO be in touch with his own emotions and to care for himself in the situation…he/she is not a breast of eternal bounty flowing full abnegation. If he/she is not able to be grounded in him/herself( self!, as different to ego games!), what signal does he/she communicate? To play a saint, is not truly being a eye to eye level human. Authenticity and not to forget humour (self irony!) at certain times, a great way to build up communication bridges.

    I can only repeat, we are an interconnected specie and trying to “cure” an individual without considering his/her environment is a form of neglect.
    That goes for the over individualising of cancer (despite all the chemical poisons and stress factors.) as for “mental” issues. Great lessons can be learned for all from “individual” fragility’s and from the possible creative strengths too.

    • antiphonsgarden, I agree. What Kierkegaard describes is the ideal. Human beings are by definition not perfect. So, we’ll always make mistakes, or: shit happens. But, as someone once said in a very different context: “It’s ok to make a mistake. Which is unforgivable is to make a mistake, and then, although you know it was a mistake, claim it to have been the right thing to do.” In other words: it’s unforgivable to be dishonest.

      • I only wish I could tell that to my last partner! So true…

  9. Perfection is not my ideal.authenticity is.I think the concept of “perfection” is the sick making failure. To remain honest, not only in mistake situation but in all situation is the communication who allows the other to feel safe in the contact . That included emotions like sadness , anger , compassion, ect…who normally are supposed to get “controlled” for the sake of a distancing concept of “the fools over there” and us “serious helpers” over here.I remember that the office staff was wearing white blouses only to not be associated with “those fools”they administrate only through papers.The staff who was in direct contact was wearing casual clothes.That tells, does n it about the daily madness.

  10. Considering we live in a global economy 13 time over evaluated and ecologically disastrous under the permanent fast impulse of trading machines, guided by careerists pleasing lobby’s and hordes of compulsory consumerist “normal” people under commodity drugs with kids on “behave well” drugs, proselytist zealot bigots neglecting evolution, and serious “jobs” like going to war to kill other humans never meet before ….of what “healthy” reality are we talking?

    • Did you ever see the TV show Angel?
      The good vampire?
      He gets in an elevator and is told when the doors open again he will be in THE actual hell.
      When the doors open, it turns out he is back on earth.

    • Yes, I like to claim the those who don’t feel disturbed by what is going on are the ones with the problem… history is happening too fast now, and we can see it all happening (but is not watching the news and pretending it isn’t happening really a solution? I don’t think so. I have my duties as a world’s citizen). It’s normal to feel disturbed… There is way in which we can find inner peace…but the modern psychiatry is not doing that.

  11. The earth or better humanity is the projection of our own unconscious.
    Knowing myself, I am trustful into the human potential to make sense with his senses.
    Some project their shadows in a cynical way, and consider those nightmares as “natural to humans”. Up to us to care for ourself, to allow our specie to unfold in beauty.

  12. [...] read about how people who have been restrained and injected with antipsychotics against their will deeply resent that treatment and were left with psychological scars from having that happen to them. In addition, [...]

  13. I just watched yesterday some of these post modern hysterical films and counted the amazing amount of fast cuts imposed to those watching this TV production. All this violence to hide the superficiality of the script, activism without reflection. What impacts those making such films?

    Only one aspect about the daily mainstream brainwashing who transforms our perception of ourself, of our environment and each other, if we are not careful.

  14. I struggle with saying I’m “anti-psychiatry” though I have not met many pdocs who were very knowledgeable about alternatives to meds, electroshock, restraints, coercion etc. I kind of lump big pharma and psychiatry in the same basket these days and despite the risks of being labelled a Scientologist (which I most definitely am not…I preferred Frank Herbert to L. Ron) still pretty much identify as anti-psych. This is a great post and interesting discussion. Great work!

    • Hello Alarryyk! I have been a fan of Frank Herbert since I was a child. Thanks for commenting and visiting!

  15. [...] An argument for antipsychiatry « Alternative Mental Health Recovery. [...]


Categories

Follow

Get every new post delivered to your Inbox.