I found this interesting article about schizophrenics and smoking at Brain Blogger recently. Since I have a blog this is the perfect place to get on a soapbox and rant a little about the topic.
Before I cured myself of schizophrenia, bipolar and ptsd I was a smoker. I started when I was fifteen as soon as I got out of a horrible psych group home for teens. I needed to cope with how little control over my life I had and the things people would do to me. I asked my foster father why he smoked and he told me it was to relax and calm down. I promptly asked for a couple of his Winstons and I was a smoker thereafter.
Smoking served several purposes for me back then. I was not allowed to smoke in the house. Anytime I wanted to smoke I had to go outside. This turned out to be in my favor as anytime I wanted to chill out and be by myself unsupervised I just went outside to have my smoke.
I found a nice big pine tree with branches so dense that it offered some shelter from the New England rain and showers. It gave me some space and time to think. I could let down my guard for a few minutes and chill.
For years after I continued to smoke. Once I had a job at the local Dunkin Donuts at the age of sixteen I could afford my own habit and it was not long before I was smoking a half a pack or more.
I got into trouble pursuing and defending my ‘right to smoke’ as a minor. After the foster home I ended up in other groups homes and did another go around inpatient. By then I was a smoker and I would be damned if some resident staff or psych nurse or program rule was going to stop me from smoking.
It became my single act of rebellion in those places. I built up trust from weeks long compliance with structure and as soon as I had a structure level where I could be out of sight with on-grounds privileges I always hid a stash of smokes somewhere. Usually a pack of smokes, wrapped in a baggie with matches tucked inside the box. I hid them in ceilings and under rocks.
Sooner or later I got busted. A non smoker staff got too close to me when I came back on the unit and smelled the smoke on me. The balloon would go up. The staff would go in a frenzy and start tearing my stuff apart.
I would taunt them and laugh at them when they did it.
“What, do you think I am an idiot? You think I would permit you the pleasure of confiscating my ‘contraband’ by stashing it my room? You people are such tools. In less than 300 days I will be 18 and you can’t stop me from smoking as much as I want, where I want and when I want. Go ahead and search. You will never find them you f***ing hypocritical morons who go outside and smoke on your lunch breaks.”
They never did find my smokes. It was glorious to frustrate the staff like that. Then all it took was going into a different, less restrictive program and suddenly anyone who was a smoker could go outside and smoke on the porch.
All those room searches and level demotions and furious and frantic staff searching for my stash. It was all in vain. My anger would just burn in my veins like lava thinking about those room searches and now here I was sitting on a rickety old rocking chair on a porch smoking to my hearts content.
It was a small personal victory of me versus the system to have never been caught with cigarettes or in the act of smoking while I was in those programs. To deliberately disobey structure and do what I wanted and get away with it. It was a way for me to take control of my life in some small way.
A few months later I was a legal adult and the entire issue became moot. In my first apartment I had an ashtray by my bed. Before I opened my eyes my hands would grope for my pack and lighter. With cigarette between lips I would get up and go make coffee.
I did not know at the time but I would only be a smoker for four more years.
Flash forward and now I am twenty-two. I live 3000 miles away from all my abusers and those institutions and most of my friends and family. I had made a vow to pursue a holistic lifestyle and to dedicate my life to the study of meditation, internal martial arts and yoga.
At some point that year I quit smoking. It was very painful emotionally and psychologically. Intellectually I knew I would be healthier and that this was a good change for the better. Getting over the nicotine addiction, while also painful, was not the main problem.
For the longest time I dallied before completely quitting. I switched to lights. I tried to make smoking a ritual act and not an automatic, mindless process of lighting up whenever I had the impulse. I tapered myself down to 1-2 smokes in the morning (usually with coffee) and 1-2 smokes in the evening (usually after meals).
After awhile I got fed up with my procrastination and inability to sever the habit completely. When I asked myself honestly what my problem was, the answer was, I didn’t want to quit. I liked smoking. It was a part of me and who I was. Therein lay the problem.
Smoking had become part of my core sense of who I was. I am not exaggerating when I say almost all my family members and almost all my friends were smokers. I was not just getting a fix. Smoking was a communal, social interaction for me.
My father and I would smoke together on New Years. My brother was heavy smoker. When I hung out with my friends we might pass a joint around and afterward one person would light up and almost unconsciously and simultaneously everyone else would light up too.
Smoking had become like a good friend to me. I knew that if I quit smoking that I would not be able to tolerate people smoking around me. Some smokers homes are rank and even nauseating. Since most of my friends smoked cigs that meant that after we all smoked the joint I went home. I couldn’t stick around and breathe the subsequent nicotine haze.
The hardest part for me in all this was seeing myself as a person who did not smoke. My mental image of myself was a smoker. It was part of who I was not just a habit.
What ended up sealing the deal was a chance newspaper article or something I read in a health magazine or something like that. This was in the late 90s and that was when Big Tobacco was fielding massive class action law suits. The documents came out and told the truth about cigarettes.
Cigarettes have been engineered to get you addicted. That was all there was to it. These tobacco scientists had taken all the data on addictions and neurotransmitters and brain receptors and deliberately engineered a substance that messed around with your dopamine.
When I read that I was infuriated. I had never had a choice in the matter really. I was born to a smoking mother who smoked when she carried me. I was raised in a smoking home breathing in my mother’s morning cigarette smoke while eating Cheerios before school.
It was fait accompli. My brain had been primed for dopamine addiction from the womb.The first cigarette I ever smoked was like coming home. It was already too late for me from the get go.
I was so enraged that I hurled my pack of smokes across the room where they fell behind an easy chair and lay forgotten for a year before I found them and gave them to a friend. I shattered my own addiction through sheer will. No hypnosis or patch or gum. I quit cold turkey and that was the end of it.
Then one day I tried an experiment. I borrowed a smoke from a friend. Took it home. In the privacy of my apartment I lit it and took one puff and put it out. Then I listened very carefully to my internal world. When you are fully conscious and present and you pay attention to how your body feels you can learn how substances effect you.
I realized that nicotine was a poison. It made me sick. My mouth tasted like ashes. The smell was horrid. The nicotine racing through my veins actually agitated me causing my thoughts to churn and my stomach as well. I realized most folks don’t pay attention like that. I would guess that almost every smoker noticed that effect the first time they smoked a cigarette but it does not stop them and then after awhile of smoking you don’t notice it anymore.
Here, alone in my apartment, meditating after taking a single puff I knew this was highly toxic. I cared about myself these days. I didn’t want to hurt myself or make myself sick. Although I partially regretted taking the puff it was a good experiment because it showed me that smoking makes you toxic and without a doubt effects your mind, body and feelings and not for the better.
Because of the unique experiences in my life I will forever associate smoking with mental health problems. People that have self esteem issues and hate themselves, their body, their life are not going to think twice about smoking. To them, it’s another nail in their coffin. (my brother’s own words actually).
Not all smokers are mental cases. Some people can genuinely recreationally smoke now and then and it’s not a big deal. It’s like any other recreational substance. These are people who can have a few drinks or do a line of coke or have a few smokes and they are not addicted. They recreate, they don’t self medicate.
A lot of people with mental health issues are self medicating. These folks are not smoking one or two smokes a day or a week. They go through 1-2 packs a day or more. When I was in the mental health system almost everyone I encountered was a smoker. I smoked like that too when I use to suffer from bipolar and schizophrenia.
Then I take a look at the healthiest people I knew around the time I quit and none of them smoked. My aikido and yoga teachers did not smoke. My tai chi and meditation teachers did not smoke. These were people who not only possessed good physical health but good mental health too.
Then I looked back at my friends and family. At least two of my friends had explosive tempers and they were heavy smokers. My mother, a depressive her entire life has always been a smoker. My brother who suffers from occasional bouts of depression is a smoker too.
Smoking may seem to be medication or a ‘coping stick’ but it is not. The health of your body, brain and internal organs effects your mental health and emotional outlook on life. Major smoking is self abuse that takes a toll on your entire body. Basically if you chain smoke and you have mental illness you are making it worse for yourself.
There is a saying about a sound mind in a sound body. If you smoke like that you working against your own recovery. Perhaps one of the best things someone with mental illness could do would be to quit smoking. No more artificially induced ups and downs, no more ‘nic fits’, no more dependency. Your entire health will rebound. You will get more oxygen which will help you think better. In time your energy will bounce back which can combat lethargy or lack of motivation.
You become more physically attractive when you don’t smoke. You smell better. Your skin and hair looks better. You have more endurance and better blood pressure. You remove a toxin which was negatively impacting your entire body being and it improves your mental functioning.
Why don’t more smokers with mental health issues see the light and quit? Well part of being mentally ill is not giving a shit about yourself anymore. If you have major depression, low self esteem or you hate yourself what do you care if you are toxic? You don’t care if you live or die.
Everyone is out to get you. Life is all about suffering and being morbid. The world is going to hell in a hand basket and no one understands you so why not smoke since it’s one small pleasure in an otherwise meaningless existence.
That’s part of why it’s called a ‘mental’ illness. You have beliefs and make rationalizations and decisions that you would not make or have if you were healthy and you both respected and loved yourself. Your point of view is self centered and skewed.
You don’t see the Big Picture with regards to the mind-body connection or you just don’t care. You don’t see how you are actually hurting yourself and making your experience of being alive less pleasurable by making your body sick and poisoning your internal organs.
Let’s talk about the smoking in institutions for a moment. Let’s pretend for a moment that for some reason out of the blue I was majorly depressed and forced into a hospitalization. Now I am on the ward with all the chain smokers.
I would greatly appreciate it if smoking were totally banned inside the hospital. I don’t care if you are a schizophrenic or a bipolar and smoking is your coping method. You do not have the constitutional or God given right to spread your addictive, cancerous poison cloud and force me to breath it.
I know now what I didn’t know in my youth and that’s that smoking makes your mental health worse and not better. If you don’t care about yourself, fine, that’s part of the illness. But I do care about myself and I won’t stand for it. I would slap that cigarette out of your mouth if you lit up next to me in a closed, indoor environment and I wouldn’t care who you were on the outside.
Not all people with mental health issues are smokers. My younger brother has depression and is not a smoker. One of my sisters has a bipolar Dx and is not a smoker. My abusive stepfather was never a smoker.
Nevertheless I will always associate heavy smoking with mental illness. Everytime I see someone light up in public around other people and I can see them taking deep drags I can’t get the image of the lab monkey flipping a switch for hours to get another dose of cocaine in a research on addictions out of my mind.
Now for all that I said about how awful and detrimental smoking is, there is one and only one possible, highly unlikely, totally hypothetical circumstance I can think of where I might smoke again.
You know how they chemically castrate serial sex offenders as a judicial punishment? They punish you for having mental illness too. They call it a chemical lobotomy.
If you are one of those poor souls who is under an assisted outpatient treatment order then you are being medicated against your will. Antipsychotics are dangerous brain, gland and nervous system damaging drugs that are standard treatments now for people with bipolar and schizophrenia
One thing I extracted from the Brain Blogger article is that smoking can severely diminish the effects of antipsychotics. That is really nifty information to know. If I was under an AOT order and there was a nurse coming to my home to inject me with antipsychotics I would start smoking again.
Not because I hate myself. I would hate the necessity of smoking. I would feel remorse for hurting myself by smoking. But the need to resist and fight the effects of the meds short term would be a more important consideration than the possible long term effects.
As a strategy or a tactic I would smoke all day in the hope I could feel my old self again and have my critical faculties, memory and artistic inspiration back while biding my time for the day when I could get back in court to revisit the order for assisted treatment or the day that I could afford to escape to another state or country. I would quit later once I was free of the med.
Take note, all you victims of Fuller Torrey and TAC that smoking will reduce the brain lock that antipsychotics have on you. So light em up. Just don’t blow smoke at others (or tell your Pdoc).





Found this on tag surfer. I lke the fact that you offered a great deal of information that I have not ever thought about before.
By: whackadoodle on July 18, 2009
at 11:39 am
Thanks for stopping by! Comments like yours remind me that I am not wasting my time blogging and sharing my thoughts. Take care :)
By: Jane on July 19, 2009
at 7:00 am
Hey Jane:
Very interesting post! I had a few questions to shoot your way if you wouldn’t mind?
First you mentioned that you cured yourself of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia; do you believe this was through your meditation, self-introspection, and active lifestyle? I would love to hear more about the process you went through to reach recovery!
Also, the facilities you were staying out, were they state hospitals? I have recently been doing research into different mental healthcare facilities, especially those that are Recovery-focused (therein are following the new recovery-theory of mental healthcare rather than the old stabilization approach that a lot of hospitals seem to focus around).
Throughout all your experiences have you encountered a Recovery-based clinic? If not or if so I’d love to hear your take on what the experience was like and why the facilities you were at weren’t effective for you!
I would love to continue this dialogue either here, or perhaps I could quote you on my new blog, Mental Health Recovery.
Take care and I look forward to reading more! :)
By: lexdouvasa on July 20, 2009
at 9:18 am
Hello Lex,
thanks for stopping by :)
Here are the answers to your questions taking it from the top.
In a nutshell, that’s it exactly.
No. I was in a city hospital psych ward once but the psych hospitals were private. My Dad’s insurance paid for the first one, the taxpayers of my home state paid for the second one.
I’ve never encountered a ‘recovery-based’ clinic. Frankly until you stopped by I had never heard of such a thing.
The thing is that my experience in mental health services occurred between 1989 and 1995. After that I never had anything to do with psychiatric services. No counseling or Pdocs, no inpatient or outpatient visits. I went it alone.
The first hospitalization lasted over three months. I happened when I was 14 after my first suicide attempt and it was where I got my Dxs. I actually went inpatient willingly because I wanted help. I was in for a real education about state of the art psychiatric care.
The second hospitalization was totally frivolous. My social worker forced me to go there with her under penalty of being arrested and transported by Sheriffs. She was negligent as a social worker and would never ever listen to me.
She was more than a little furious that I was discharged with a clean bill of health. I was not there to get help. I didn’t want any. I just did time there for no good reason before being shipped out of state to a group home.
The third and briefest hospitalization occurred after my final suicide attempt. I very nearly died and was brought into emergency via ambulance. After I was stable physically I got the mandatory one week observation period ‘upstairs’.
The first hospitalization was the only time I went inpatient willingly in order to get help. But I got nothing of the sort.
As soon as I was there I witnessed people going off and getting restrained. As I just spent 10 years in a home with child abuse going on and several other siblings with mental issues I was triggered and on guard.
I could not believe people were getting locked into the Quiet Room in the safety blanket. It’s assault and battery and has no mental health benefit but only traumatizes you more. I was in PTSD survival mode from the first day I was there.
Within a few weeks I finally ‘went off’ myself and after being threatened by a psych nurse I did some real damage to the adult staff there as they tried to restrain me and it was off to the Quiet Room for me. Added insult and psychological injury in addition to what I had when I walked in there.
About a week after that came the diagnoses and the resulting forced medications which left me befuddled, feeble, constipated, over weight and twitching in the face, mouth and shoulders.
I may have been only fourteen at the time but I knew that I was not being cured of anything. I was sick when I was admitted and sicker within a month of being there.
It was a total waste of my time. After that I could never be convinced that psychiatrists are people you go to get healed or that psych hospitals were safe, sane places to heal.
Because of the abuse, the chemical lobotomy that was my sentence as punishment for being mentally ill, the other patients and their behavior, the staff and their behavior I realized that psychiatric treatment only diminishes, dehumanizes and damages you, body and mind.
After what I experienced there I only entered these places, hospitals, group homes, residential facilities and the like under duress because I was a minor and had no choice.
I have never sought out psychiatric care as an adult. I knew it was it was pointless after what I went through in my teens. I knew that if I was ever going to have mental or emotional stability I would have to try alternative medicines and therapies.
I guess adults are able to bullshit themselves better than teens that having seizures, spasms, akathasia, dry mouth, uncontrollable drooling, fatigue, memory loss, cognitive dulling, night terrors, sleep walking, impotence and obesity are part of the healing magic of psychiatry and necessary if they want to become ‘well’ again.
(you can definitely quote me on that one)
For more information if you are interested I have an extensive FAQ that I’ve been developing. The ‘About Jane’ section is fairly complete and I have a few posts about how I recovered and one where I sort of structured the stuff that was important in my recovery here.
12 steps to bipolar recovery.<
By: Jane on July 20, 2009
at 4:04 pm
wow! I’m so sorry to hear about all of your bad experiences!! Unfortunately from all the reading I’ve done, it sounds like that kind of treatment is far too common at psychiatric hospitals, whether they be state or privately run. Which is a horrible fact to start realizing! It feels like they are kind of lost in the past.
Before mental hospitals were comissioned by an executive order, everybody with mental illnesses just ended up in prison. The hospitals were an improvement to that, but they still focus way to much on stabilization and warehousing of humans rather than treatment and recovery. There are of course some shining examples that break the mold and some professionals who truly are commendable, but the hospitals are just so understaffed in a lot of cases that even staff members who are truly passionate and there to make a difference aren’t allowed to.
That’s why I tend to favor the Recovery Model; which didn’t start coming around until the later 90s so you probably never ran into it. It has actually become such a large movement that New Zealand mandated all mental health facilities take on a recovery-based approach within its borders, and they think Australia will be following its example in a few short years.
Basically recovery-focused clinics allow for self-driven recoveries and encourage the fact that those with severe and persistent mental illnesses can go on to recover and live rich, fulfilling, meaningful lives in regards to their relationships, employment, housing, and everything else. It tends to follow the American Clubhouse model of giving those on the path to recovery a sort of community center where they can recieve higher level education, employment opportunities, etc.
I was once speaking to a psychologist I work with about what is different about the recovery based approaches and he gave me this example…now at first it seems rather crude but it really seems to hit home at the end so bear with me :)
Suppose you have someone who comes in and is pathologically indifferent or negatory. They have lost their house due to spending all of their money on illegal narcotics, and needless to say are unemployed. Now a traditional approach would say, “OK, this is what you need to do. First…, Second…, and when you’ve done those, third…”
The problem there is that the motivation is all external and thus the consumer is more prone to relapses, because they aren’t changing for themselves.
Now take the recovery approach to the problem.
The clinician might say: “Well…what do you want to do” wherein the consumer replies they don’t want employment, they don’t want housing, they want to spend all of their money on drugs. So the clinician finds a way to turn what they are passionate about (whether that passion is constructive or not) into a method of recovering from their addiction.
For example, the clinician would say, “Ok…well you want to buy drugs, that means you need money, which means your going to need a job. And for a job and a place to collect SSI, your going to need a place to live. And to hold down the job, your going to need to be able to show up on time and work reliably, which means you can’t keep doing drugs, etc. etc etc.”
Ok he put it much more eloquently…but basically it is a concept of self-driven empowerment for improvement. It sounds like you were forced into a lot of things which 1) understandably leads to a ton of resistance and 2) is often far from constructive, and is actually often destructive if anything. Anyway that’s recovery in a nutshell…there is way way more to it, but if you’d like to learn more about it you can always check out my Mental Health Recovery Blog, which is more a free-wheeling discussion of recovery from the consumer and practitioner’s standpoint but it also has links to articles I’ve written as to what recovery actually means.
The active lifestyle and meditation concept is very interesting to me! A lot of consumers I’ve spoken to cannot stress enough the importance of both of these exercises! In fact, there is now a treatment plan called dialectical behavioral treatment that teaches a form of seated meditation for the point of self-reflection. And recent research is showing that exercise leads to the creation of a chemical known as brain derived neurotropic factor which can actually re-create brain cells. I just never knew how powerful such concepts could be!
I will definately read more into the link you sent over and your FAQ. If you wouldn’t mind, I’m starting to put together a piece as to why hospitals are definately not necessarily the best solution and I would love to quote some of what you said or get your take on it!
It will likely just be posted on the Recovery Blog or in an article I submit to ezineArticles or squidoo, but I will let you know!
Thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy day to share your experiences with me! I’ve gotten a lot of ideas from your comment!
Warm regards,
Lex Douvasa
Research and Evaluations Specialist
MHCD Research and Evaluations Department
By: lexdouvasa on July 21, 2009
at 7:45 am
excellent post!
By: peerspecialist on July 22, 2009
at 5:50 am
thank you peer specialist!
By: Jane on July 22, 2009
at 7:08 pm
Good post!
I knew that a huge proportion of people on meds for schizophrenia/bipolar smoke–it’s kind of hard not to notice!–but only recently found out that dopamine has an awful lot to do with this. It made total sense that I got started into heavy tobacco and coffee consumption when I was on dopamine-tampering meds. Now, I’ve been off meds for several years but still smoke the equivalent of a pack a day (roll my own to avoid some of the additives) and drink a lot of coffee, probably to help me deal with the lasting effects on my brain chemistry. I sure did suspect that there were some, but apparently only got ready to deal with learning more about neuroleptic/SSRI nastiness recently. That’s been interesting, to say the least. :-|
Thanks for writing about your experiences. It gives me more hope that I really can get my brain functioning enough better not to need regular bursts of nicotine and toxins to blast through the lingering fog.
By: urocyon on July 27, 2009
at 7:59 am
This is pretty inspirational. The detail you laid out on what it does to your body really is a great reminder. So often I’d rather not think about it. I know I’d feel better if I quit. This is one of the best anti-smoking tirades I’ve ever read, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it helps passersby to quit. I hope I’m one of them.
Something I wrote about smoking causing depression in 2006, but it’s not nearly as good as yours.
Smoking and Depression
By: Andy Alt on July 29, 2009
at 12:47 pm
Forgive me for being afk for so long folks. Let me get to replies.
Urocyon: You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to read this stuff and comment so thoughtfully about your own experiences. Best wishes to you on your recovery.
Andy! Nice to see you in this corner of the blogverse again. You have my best wishes for your success in quitting. If you want more inspiration you can read hard science. I have a college text book on human physiology about twenty years old I bought at a used book store awhile back. It discusses how different systems in the body work. There was two sections which helped scare me into dropping my smoking down to a couple a day.
One was the technical stuff on how oxygen works with blood to run the body and the other was the technical babble about how your lungs and respiration work. The cold hard facts all laid out for the student is very bracing when you know how nicotine works in your body. If you are similary gifted with a highly visual imagination you might also be drawn to tears and anxiety as you read it.
Lex! I really enjoyed reading your recovery based modality. In fact it seems to be the very height of pragmatic common sense. It is far superior to the ‘get you balanced with meds’ modality.
I wrote in detail about my own experiences with recovery in my forthcoming memoir but I will text a little bit about it here.
After my final suicide attempt I did a lot of thinking. I realized that as a ‘dead’ person my life was over. I was in a position to start life all over again from the ground up.
While I was recovering from my OD I asked myself the same questions again and again. One of those questions was,
“What do you want?”
In the aftermath of my OD I found I could not lie to myself anymore. All my psychic defenses and internal mind games were down and I was vulnerable to direct linking with my subconscious mind and my spirit.
When I asked myself what I really wanted the answers came immediately and honestly. I wanted to left alone. Totally alone as much possible. Away from any social interactions for a long time. I wanted also to be able to smoke enough weed to keep the voices and flashbacks away. That was a lot of weed.
I didn’t want a million dollars or a perfect spouse or a the latest in styling clothes and shoes. I asked the Universe if that was really so much to ask for. When I asked myself what it would take to get those things I knew I needed to come back into the real world enough to get a job. There was no one on the planet that was going to give me room, board, food and money for pot.
Months later I finally got a good job that payed well that did not involve customer service. After awhile I could afford to live by myself in my own apartment. What money I had left over could either go to trying to get a car or to buy weed but not both.
Not having a car was such a load off my mind it helped diminish my stress load. It was one less thing that was bugging me. No more endless nickle and dime maintenance and breakdowns on the road and towing fees. No more insurance and registration and oil changes. No more getting pulled over because a tailight was out and I couldn’t afford to replace it. It was a completely avoidable stress and I redirected my money entirely into drugs. I got exactly what I wanted.
For six months I was completely satisfied to have a solid blue collar job and total privacy and isolation when I was not at work. I took public transportation or walked or biked to and from work. Every day I rolled and smoked one to two joints just to be able to stand other people without wanting to assault them or run away. Every evening I decompressed a hard days work at the factory and studiously relaxed for the remainder of the day and evening before bed.
That’s how I lived my life for half a year at least. At some point I began reading my old martial art and chinese medicine books and I began to feel a stirring of purpose and longing inside myself. I revisited the question. What did I want now? I wanted to become head over heels involved with all things holistic and spiritual. Why not? I was no longer part of the system or the rat race. I was not planning for the future. I was living one day at a time and I wanted to begin spending more of daily allotment of time practicing the things that mattered most to me since I was kid. Mind-body discipline.
After that my recovery took a new direction of self empowerment. That’s how I recovered. I asked myself honestly what I wanted then went about making that happen. Success breeds success which breeds self confidence.
The six months I spent hiding out in my apartment smoking pot continuously kept me safe from harming myself. It gave me time for the intensity of the various spiritual wounds I had to diminish a little. It allowed to sit and think and brood as I awaited for the inspiration that would lift me from my spiritual depression.
Anyway. I was very excited when I read you description because it’s a much wiser approach that can lead to real recovery. Thanks for stopping by.
Andy, I will read your post and Lex I will be checking out your site in a little bit.
Thanks everyone for commenting and your patience with my responses.
update edit: Andy I read your article and I thought it was very good. It was thorough and well considered. I couldn’t comment on it so I am doing so here :)
By: Jane on August 2, 2009
at 9:12 am